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  • Lesson 10: Exchange Feedback on Cycle 2

    Posted by cheryl croasmun on February 13, 2023 at 5:59 am

    Post your assignment for feedback. You can also put a request for a feedback partner in this feed.

    Bill replied 2 years, 1 month ago 9 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Tim Adeney

    Member
    March 3, 2023 at 1:53 pm

    Andrew’s rewrite QE Cycle 2 for critique:

    LOGLINE: Nick and John argue and fight while rock climbing

    ESSENCE: Nick’s in love with Jess; John is not.

    EXT. ROCK FACE – DAY

    A cliff face. High above the valley below.

    A rope frays against a rock edge, as a climber below climbs up towards it.

    The rope runs up to a pin higher up. A hand plays with the rope and pin…

    The hand belongs rock climber, NICK [mid 20s]. He rests on a ledge as he waits for his companion to make the climb up to him.

    Nick pulls away from his reverie as JOHN [mid 20s] appears over the ledge below him. He looks up at Nick.

    JOHN

    If I fell now, I’d be out of your way.

    NICK

    Yeah, I could make it look like an accident.

    John eyes him from below.

    JOHN

    Is that why you brought me up here?

    Nick indicates the rope tied to his harness, and pulls on it to show they’re connected. He leans forward.

    NICK

    Take my hand.

    John ignores Nick.

    He struggles to get a better grip, looking for a foothold under the ledge.

    His foot slips.

    Nick pulls back and braces with the rope for the fall.

    John’s hanging on by his fingers.

    NICK (CONT’D)

    Lean back. Trust the rope. I’ve got it.

    John refuses, trying to get a foothold.

    JOHN (CONT’D)

    Sure you have…

    John tries again to get a foothold, but slips. Falls.

    Nick braces as the rope jerks tight with John’s body weight. John only falls a foot or so, hanging in midair.

    NICK

    See? If I wanted you out of the way, I wouldn’t be this obvious.

    John tries to reach the cliff face, but because of the ledge, he’s too far away.

    JOHN

    I can’t reach.

    NICK

    Swing yourself side to side.

    The rope frays against the ledge, as John swings his body to get a hold of the rock face again.

    John gets a grip on the cliff face again.

    JOHN

    I just can’t believe my best man wants to bang my fiance.

    NICK

    Do you want me to; cause that’s what it sounds like.

    JOHN

    Are you?

    NICK

    We’re friends. I introduced you two, remember? I dared you to ask her out.

    John appears over the ledge again.

    JOHN

    Why did you bring up here, Nick?

    NICK

    Do you love her, or do you just want to bang her?

    JOHN

    What’s the difference?

    NICK

    There’s a difference… but, okay, you don’t trust her and you want to test her, right?

    JOHN

    Maybe.

    NICK

    So set up a date, I’ll arrive instead, give her a few drinks, have a good time, see if she wants a last fling before tying the knot.

    Nick offers his hand.

    NICK (CONT’D)

    I’m trying to help.

    John takes the helping hand this time and Nick hauls him onto the ledge, where he sits, getting his breath back.

    NICK (CONT’D)

    I won’t actually go through with it.

    JOHN

    How do I know that?

    Nick studies the rock for the next leg of the climb, getting a hand hold.

    NICK

    You’ll just have to trust me.

    He pulls himself upwards.

    JOHN

    I don’t. Not with Jess.

    NICK

    Yeah. If you don’t trust her, why you marrying her?

    JOHN

    I said I would.

    NICK

    That’s a shit reason.

    Nick hammers a pin into the rock further up.

    NICK (CONT’D)

    Love and trust go together, like this rope and these pins, man. The one is useless without the other.

    John starts to climb up after Nick.

    JOHN

    I’ll be a loyal husband.

    NICK

    Loyal like this rock – hard, unmovable, controlling…

    John draws level with Nick, but this time he keeps climbing without looking at Nick.

    NICK (CONT’D)

    I don’t care what anyone says; if you don’t trust her – you don’t really love her.

    JOHN

    And I suppose you do.

    Nick doesn’t answer.

    John stops climbing; stares at Nick.

    NICK

    You’ve shown me you don’t love her; you don’t even know what love means.

    JOHN

    Shit. You really do want to bang her.

    John’s free leg swings out, catching Nick under the jaw, sending him backwards off the cliff.

    The rope tightens and Nick jerks to a halt.

    John braces, but he has no pin to hold him this time, and Nick’s weight pulls him from the cliff face also.

    John jerks to a halt also.

    The rope on the ledge frays more as the men swing in mid air.

    Both men now hanging a few feet from each other, trading blows in midair… as the rope frays further.

    • Laurie Stoner

      Member
      March 4, 2023 at 3:39 pm

      Hey Andrew,

      This is a strong scene with a great setting full of suspense and alternating hope/fear. I found all of the character traits, with John’s distrustful nature and Nick’s conniving trait warring with his giving trait being the most used. Where I struggled a bit was with ascertaining the essence. In the setup we get that Nick brought John up there to learn if John really loves Jess, but why he’s doing this wasn’t clear to me, although the essence statement says it’s because Nick loves Jess. He wants John to let him test Jess’s fidelity as a way of testing Jess’s love for him or for John’s love for her? Or is he just manipulating John into admitting he proposed to Jess but doesn’t really love her and he is only going through with it because of his loyalty trait? (I struggled with what seemed like these contradictions, too.) Maybe if you started the scene with a text from Jess to Nick that she’s worried she’s making a mistake and needs his help to know what to do or ended the scene with a stronger line than John’s “Shit. You really do want to bang her” to express that John has a character change but it’s probably too late.

    • Shelley darling

      Member
      March 4, 2023 at 3:50 pm

      FEEDBACK for Andrew’s rewrite QE Cycle 2 with marked character traits and Interest Techniques:

      Hi Andrew,

      I really loved your setting, it put me in the scene and had me on edge! I hope the following suggestions support the full arc of your characters.

      I noticed you had the characters speaking to the others’ subtext more than the characters expressing their own-you might want to strengthen the scene by shifting this.

      Also, John’s character trait of being daring doesn’t seem to show up till the end, when he dares to push Nick off the cliff. Consider emphasizing your Interest Techniques, this may help dramatize the situation even more. Maybe you could add a few others, such as superior position and radical character changes.

      Please let me know if this critique is positive and helpful,

      Shelley

      LOGLINE: Nick and John argue and fight while rock climbing

      ESSENCE: Nick’s in love with Jess; John is not.

      EXT. ROCK FACE – DAY

      A cliff face. High above the valley below.

      A rope frays against a rock edge, as a climber below climbs up towards it. (Suspense)

      The rope runs up to a pin higher up. A hand plays with the rope and pin…

      The hand belongs rock climber, NICK [mid 20s]. He rests on a ledge as he waits for his companion to make the climb up to him.

      Nick pulls away from his reverie as JOHN [mid 20s] appears over the ledge below him. He looks up at Nick.

      JOHN

      If I fell now, I’d be out of your way.

      NICK

      Yeah, I could make it look like an accident. (Conniving)

      John eyes him from below.

      JOHN

      Is that why you brought me up here? (distrustful) (Nicks subtext)

      Nick indicates the rope tied to his harness, and pulls on it to show they’re connected. He leans forward.

      NICK

      Take my hand. (Giving)

      John ignores Nick. (distrustful)

      He struggles to get a better grip, looking for a foothold under the ledge. (loner) (Uncertainty)

      His foot slips. (Suspense)

      Nick pulls back and braces with the rope for the fall.

      John’s hanging on by his fingers.

      NICK (CONT’D)

      Lean back. Trust the rope. I’ve got it. (confidence)

      John refuses, trying to get a foothold.

      JOHN (CONT’D)

      Sure you have…(distrustful)

      John tries again to get a foothold, but slips. Falls.

      Nick braces as the rope jerks tight with John’s body weight. John only falls a foot or so, hanging in midair.

      NICK

      See? If I wanted you out of the way, I wouldn’t be this obvious. (conniving)

      John tries to reach the cliff face, but because of the ledge, he’s too far away.

      JOHN

      I can’t reach.

      NICK

      Swing yourself side to side.

      The rope frays against the ledge, as John swings his body to get a hold of the rock face again.(suspense)

      John gets a grip on the cliff face again.

      JOHN

      I just can’t believe my best man wants to bang my fiance. (distrustful) (subtext) (betrayal)

      NICK

      Do you want me to; cause that’s what it sounds like. (subtext)

      JOHN

      Are you?

      NICK

      We’re friends. I introduced you two, remember? I dared you to ask her out.

      John appears over the ledge again.

      JOHN

      Why did you bring up here, Nick? (Nick’s subtext)

      NICK

      Do you love her, or do you just want to bang her?

      JOHN

      What’s the difference?

      NICK

      There’s a difference… but, okay, you don’t trust her and you want to test her, right?

      JOHN

      Maybe.

      NICK

      So set up a date, I’ll arrive instead, give her a few drinks, have a good time, see if she wants a last fling before tying the knot. (conniving)

      Nick offers his hand.(giving)

      NICK (CONT’D) (giving)

      I’m trying to help.

      John takes the helping hand this time and Nick hauls him onto the ledge, where he sits, getting his breath back.

      NICK (CONT’D)

      I won’t actually go through with it.

      JOHN

      How do I know that?(distrustful)

      Nick studies the rock for the next leg of the climb, getting a hand hold.

      NICK

      You’ll just have to trust me.

      He pulls himself upwards.

      JOHN

      I don’t. Not with Jess.

      NICK

      Yeah. If you don’t trust her, why you marrying her?

      JOHN

      I said I would. (loyal)

      NICK

      That’s a shit reason. (rebellious)

      Nick hammers a pin into the rock further up.

      NICK (CONT’D)

      Love and trust go together, like this rope and these pins, man. The one is useless without the other.

      John starts to climb up after Nick.

      JOHN

      I’ll be a loyal husband. (loyal)

      NICK

      Loyal like this rock – hard, unmovable, controlling…

      John draws level with Nick, but this time he keeps climbing without looking at Nick.

      NICK (CONT’D)

      I don’t care what anyone says; if you don’t trust her – you don’t really love her. (rebellios)

      JOHN

      And I suppose you do.

      Nick doesn’t answer.

      John stops climbing; stares at Nick.

      NICK

      You’ve shown me you don’t love her; you don’t even know what love means.

      JOHN

      Shit. You really do want to bang her. (Betrayal)

      John’s free leg swings out, catching Nick under the jaw, sending him backwards off the cliff. (surprise)

      The rope tightens and Nick jerks to a halt.

      John braces, but he has no pin to hold him this time, and Nick’s weight pulls him from the cliff face also. (suspense)

      John jerks to a halt also.

      The rope on the ledge frays more as the men swing in mid air. (Uncertainty)

      Both men now hanging a few feet from each other, trading blows in midair… as the rope frays further.

    • Laurie Stoner

      Member
      March 7, 2023 at 3:07 pm

      Andrew, with respect to the comment you made on my thread about Nick’s discovering he loves her during the scene is difficult. Wouldn’t it require a different setup? Nick’s first line is how he could make John’s fall look like an accident. Even conniving guy who is also giving, would he threaten to murder John if he didn’t love her? Maybe, if you rework Nick’s line at the end of the scene from “You’ve shown me you don’t love her; you don’t even know what love means” to “You’ve shown me you don’t love her, and since I now know how much I do, you’ve left me no choice…”

      • Tim Adeney

        Member
        March 7, 2023 at 10:05 pm

        Hi Mary, yes, you may be right… And if you’re producing the movie, you’re absolutely right and I can make that work for sure 🙂

        Jokes aside, yes, I see your point – and the final lines don’t have enough punch. Yet. Thank you for taking the time to give me extra feedback.

  • Audrey Gomes

    Member
    March 4, 2023 at 12:10 am

    AUDREY

    LESSON 10: QE CYCLE 2 – EXCHANGE FEEDBACK

    LOGLINE: A rich Asian benefactor’s most precious heirloom has been stolen from a museum gallery in his family’s name. The real culprit is the last person he’d suspect.

    ESSENCE: When what appears to be the truth could really be a lie.

    INT. MUSEUM ROTUNDA – DAY

    JOHN ABARA, uniformed Security Guard, late 40’s, white, is in lock step with MIRA YANG, beautiful, African-American in her 30’s, and she’s all business. They’re hastily approaching…

    FROM JOHN AND MIRA’S POV

    POLICE. CAMERA FLASHES. PLAIN CLOTHES DETECTIVE making notes, FORENSICS, in latex gloves and, evidence collection kits, all milling around.

    BACK TO MIRA

    MIRA

    As you can imagine, Mr. Yang is very upset. But there’s nothing that ties you to any of this. Don’t let my husband rattle you… He’s very good at that! You’ll be fine. Just stick to your story.

    JOHN

    (South African accent)

    My story? It’s not a story. It’s the truth!

    They share a look.

    MIRA

    Good!

    A hint of a smile creeps across Mira’s lips, as they march toward to commotion.

    INT. MUSEUM YANG GALLERY – CONINUOUS

    Asian and African Artifacts displayed side by side. Pottery. Paintings. Gold vessels. Masks. Vases. A broken Glass Display Case, surrounded by investigators.

    NICK YANG, handsome Asian, 40’s, Brook Brothers styled, intensely studies the empty Glass Display Case, dusted in Forensic white powder. TWO BODYGUARDS, flank Nick. As the commotion thins out… John and Mira enter. She stealthily stands to one side.

    Nick, sees John, and jesters for the Two Bodyguards to leave. They exit.

    NICK

    John! Sorry, I don’t recall your last name.

    JOHN

    Abara!

    NICK

    Abara! Where are you from? I mean the accent.

    JOHN

    I’m from South Africa!

    Nick walks around the gallery studying the artifacts as though he’s seeing it all for the very first time.

    MEANWHILE

    NICK

    Tell me about yourself, John.

    JOHN

    You know me! I’ve worked here for 11 years.

    NICK

    And?…

    A BEAT as John register’s it’s not the answer Nick wants.

    JOHN

    I work this wing of the museum and mostly assigned to this gallery.

    NICK

    Ah, there it is! You know this wing! Every artifact. Every exit. Alley way. Every curator.

    JOHN

    I told the detectives everything I know.

    NICK

    See, I don’t think you did!

    John says nothing.

    Nick turns to John and their eyes lock.

    NICK

    Here’s what I know about you! You’ve never taken a sick day in 11 years… no family or personal time.

    JOHN

    That’s right!

    NICK

    Except the day of the robbery.

    John says nothing.

    NICK

    Here’s the other thing I know about you… you once ran into a burning building and saved a man you didn’t even know. That shows courage… Someone who’s willing to take risk…

    JOHN

    I’m no fool! I could see my way in. And clearly see the way out!

    As Nick digests the comment, he moves close to John.

    NICK

    Smart!

    JOHN

    Mr. Yang. I lead a simple life. I come to work. Do my job. And go home and feed my cat.

    Nick, clearly growing agitated, starts pacing…

    NICK

    The Bronze African Mask is an ancient artifact that belongs to my family, dating back to the 6th Century.

    ( clearly agitated)

    A rare historical find! It’s evidence that trade occurred between two continents… China and

    NICK (CONT’D)

    Africa! It’s an Asian treasure, important to me…

    Turns to Mira.

    NICK

    To us!

    JOHN

    What’d you want from me?

    Nick gets in John’s face…

    NICK

    (yells)

    I WANT IT BACK!

    (growing angrier)

    We all know if there’s a roach in this gallery that doesn’t belong, you’ll know it! Hard to believe a rat enters, case the gallery and you have no clue! I’m giving a way out!… Name your price! And make something of your life with your fuckin’ cat!

    Mira rushes to Nick’s side… grabs his arm.

    MIRA

    Nick, that’s enough!

    She pulls away.

    The Two Bodyguards rush in, accessing the moment.

    JOHN

    NICK! Here’s the difference between me and you… I don’t stay up at night worrying about my big losses, or how to trust, or who wants me because of who I am.

    Nick rushes to John. One Bodyguards steps in front of John.

    JOHN

    And here’s what I know about you! The heist goes underground and may never be discovered. But someone will be rich!

    (whispering)

    Here’s the best part!

    JOHN (CONT’D)

    Priceless stolen art have hefty insurance payouts. Either way… I see that as a win, win!

    Their eyes lock.

    Nick balls his fist.

    NICK

    (furious)

    I will squeeze you like a rotten grape — if you’re involved.

    John starts walking out…

    JOHN

    (overlapping, calls back)

    — Mate, take one for the team!

    It may wind up in Africa!

    John stops. Peers at Nick.

    JOHN

    Like a gift-back for all the stolen art that ends up in galleries!

    He looks at Mira. Then, he walks away.

    END OF ACT

    • Tim Adeney

      Member
      March 6, 2023 at 6:14 am

      Hey Audrey, some quick thoughts on your scene.

      I think you did a good job with some of the interest techniques – John and Mira clearly have something going on, so that creates suspense, and hope/fear that he won’t get rattled by Nick. That works fine.

      Where I think it still needs development is in traits and subtext – so Nick is aggressive at some points, rather than conniving. I would argue if he’s confident, he wouldn’t swear and shout at John. I think he could be smarter in setting john up to confess something so that he gets a payout. It’s John’s distrust that saves him. This is a neat situation, but I never felt like it was a genuine [conniving] offer, nor that John was ever tempted to actually say something that could incriminate him.

      John has clearly been daring, and is daring in this discussion, although also confident. Would he be distrustful of Mira? Perhaps he’s loyal to her, but we don’t know why… maybe that’s back story we don’t need. His back story tells us he’s a loner. Arguably he tricks Nick into showing his worst side, but it came across as Nick’s traits to me more than being tricked.

      So, I think the elements are all there, but still needing some polish to avoid misinterpretation of the traits and subtext.

      Hope that helps 🙂

      • Audrey Gomes

        Member
        March 6, 2023 at 9:40 pm

        Hi Andrew,

        <font face=”inherit”>Thank you for your comments. I can see all your points and am in total agreement. I’m still working on capturing the relationship between subtext and the expression of it in the dialogue/action. I don’t yet have it “down.” And I think until that time, I may </font>not be<font face=”inherit”> helpful in offering direction to anyone in my group. I’m looking forward to the “breakthrough” in this area. Thank you once again.</font>

        • Tim Adeney

          Member
          March 7, 2023 at 10:13 pm

          Hi Audrey,

          None of us have it ‘down’ – that’s why we’re doing the course. All feedback is helpful, even if just a little. Besides, we’re all audience, so we all have an impression from what we read, and that’s valid.

          And we don’t have to agree with the feedback we receive, but it’s still helpful to get us thinking through the skills and how the audience may be interpreting a scene.

          Don’t give up 🙂

  • Shelley darling

    Member
    March 4, 2023 at 1:59 am

    Shelley’s rewrite QE Cycle #2 for critique:

    LOGLINE: After his client dies on the mountain, John, the ski instructor implicated, must prove Nick is the one the investigator is looking for before it’s too late.

    ESSENCE: A lone wolf must rely on friendship in order to reveal the truth.

    SCENE: INT. GONDOLA RESTAURANT AT THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN

    Small groups of skiers huddle nursing steaming hot toddies inside a dining hall. Tall windows frame high mountain peaks as the snowstorm rages.

    Two men enter, stomping ice from their bright-colored ski boots. It is clear from the ease of their movement they spend their lives on the steep slopes. Their somber faces are deeply weathered. Pins on their jackets show their names and job titles.

    NICK, (29) a large Nordic ski instructor navigates through rows of empty tables. JOHN, (36), a patrolman, hangs back, his pale blue eyes sharply scanning the room. Prompted by Nick, John follows with a cautious wolfish stride.

    NICK (28) (waiting for John to catch up)

    Hey man, let’s get a back table. We need to get your story straight.

    Metal chairs scraping on concrete as they sit down. Nick, leaning back his chair, slyly surveys the environment, John glares at Nick.

    NICK (CON’T)

    Look, the investigator is due any minute, and I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

    JOHN

    Why are you worrying about me, dude, it’s not your business, I can work this out.

    NICK

    Hey, look around you, do you see anyone else who’s got your back?

    Stop trying to do it yourself, this is serious, let me help. (laughing) I’ll put money down for your bail.

    JOHN
    I’ve always been there for you, but, come on, you’ve got to be kidding… and I’m to believe you, with your past deceptions?

    NICK

    Those were the old days, long past, I couldn’t have gotten on the ski patrol if I was still drinking.

    JOHN

    Yeah, right. The truth. I wonder who’d you pay off? You know full on it is always the same, one beer, and you’re in the hole again. And you’re a cheating drunk.

    NICK

    5 years sober last Wednesday.

    JOHN

    Well, I’ve been hearing otherwise.

    NICK (caught in his lie)

    Fuck ‘em if they can’t take it!

    JOHN

    Look, a million bucks say you had something to do with it—time to take off the Superman suit. Is it any coincidence you arrived even before I called a code red? I’m railroaded because I left my jacket to keep the old guy warm. You were still there when I left skiing down the gnarliest conditions to arrange for the ambulance.

    LUCY (21) comes out of the kitchen all dolled up, dressed in a chef’s apron.

    LUCY

    Hey boys. What’s up lover-(kisses Nick). You guys still at it?

    JOHN

    Hey Luce. (turns back to Nick) You moonlight for the guy. I wouldn’t have taken him up the mountain if I knew he was sick. Nick, you know more than you tell and wanting more from the old guy.

    NICK

    God help you. You’ll need help with your storytelling if you want to get out of this one because you knew he couldn’t do a black diamond.

    JOHN

    Hey man (putting his arm on Nick’s), how would I have known he couldn’t do a black diamond…maybe it’s time to tell the truth behind your story.

    NICK

    Lucy, will you please set this loner straight?

    LUCY (lightheartedly, with a quick conspiratorial smile)

    John, I was with Nick, don’t you remember? Sure, it was foggy towards the bottom of the mountain, with two feet of fresh powder at the top. People were having fun. Hey, I’m going to see you later in the kitchen for tonight’s function, right? You promised.

    NICK

    What’s going on here? (jokingly) John, you have my permission to take my lady into the kitchen.

    JOHN

    Are you jealous? Look, I committed to helping Luce in the kitchen before all this happened. But we’re not done with this conversation. There’s something off here, and I will find out what it is.

    Nick grabs Lucy around the waist and pulls her close, revealing tattoos on her arm.

    JOHN

    Hey, wait a minute… that’s it! Luce, that last ink you got says it- the one Nick really didn’t like – what does it say?

    NICK (interrupting)

    What are you talking about? Leave her out of this!

    JOHN

    Luce, you know something, I can see it in your eyes. (Lucy looks away, throwing a casual glance at Nick)

    NICK

    Her name is Lucy. (turns to Lucy) I don’t know how you put up with this guy. Doesn’t trust anybody, not even his friends. There’s no evidence, John. They are not going to put you in jail.

    JOHN

    I’m taking a big risk here. The patrol does the trail checks and handles the mountain signage, but the sign was missing. The old man was ahead of me and didn’t know it was a black diamond until he dropped in. By then it was too late.

    NICK

    (quickly start leading Lucy away) Come on, Hun, let’s leave this loser. Once a loner, always a loner.

    LUCY

    Nick, enough. I have proof of your involvement. I found this note in the snow after they took the old man down in the gurney. Don’t you recognize it? This is the note you gave the old man, it must have fallen out of his pocket that day.

    (NICK turns to Lucy) Sweetie, you must be mistaken. I’ve never seen this note, in fact…

    JOHN

    Admit it Nick? You are a conniving asshole. You knew the old guy was sick. You set this up.

    LUCY

    Nick, I ain’t going anywhere with you unless you admit this whole thing was another one of your schemes. The note proves it.

    NICK
    (laughing) Oh yeah, right, I admit nothing.

    Nick suddenly whips around, grabbing John by the neck.

    NICK CON’T)

    Why, you worthless piece of shit! I hope they hang you!

    JOHN
    Hey, you’d be wise to let go schmuck- and look around you. Meet ALL MY friends.

    NICK

    You ain’t got no friends, dude.

    A group of ski patrolmen gathers, with other locals menacingly encircling Nick. Trying one more time to side-punch John, John dodges the blow. Nick, missing, is thrown off balance, and slips, cracking his head on the nearby ski rack. Trapped, eyes wild, blood streams down his face.

    The gang of locals jumps in, grabbing Nick. Cackling loudly, they hang him by his parka on the ski rack. The crowd cheers John on as the investigative team arrives. In a full curtsy, Lucy hands the implicating note to the investigator in charge.

    JOHN (admiringly, turns towards Lucy)

    It’s about time…thanks, Luce, I couldn’t have done it without you… and the gang.

    John gives her a hot kiss on the lips, lifting her arm, showing her tattoo, “THE TRUTH REVEALS ALL.”

    LUCY (reaching for John’s hand)

    Come on babe, let’s go, we got a flock to feed tonight. (Turning towards Nick) Hell, he’s finally gonna to get more than just hanging on the rack.

    • Laurie Stoner

      Member
      March 5, 2023 at 10:49 pm

      Hi Shelley,

      I noted the character traits and interest techniques in the scene as I read

      Shelley’s rewrite QE Cycle #2 for critique:

      LOGLINE: After his client dies on the mountain, John, the ski instructor implicated, must prove Nick is the one the investigator is looking for before it’s too late. Note: I don’t understand who is who —

      NICK, (29) a large Nordic ski instructor navigates through rows of empty tables. JOHN, (36), a patrolman, hangs back, his pale blue eyes sharply scanning the room. Prompted by Nick, John follows with a cautious wolfish stride. Note: he logline says John is the ski instructor?

      JOHN

      Why are you worrying about me, dude, it’s not your business, I can work this out. Note: Loner trait

      NICK

      Hey, look around you, do you see anyone else who’s got your back? Note: Disagreeing – Conniving?

      Stop trying to do it yourself, this is serious, let me help. (laughing) I’ll put money down for your bail. Note: Giving but he’s not serious about it

      JOHN
      I’ve always been there for you, but, come on, you’ve got to be kidding… and I’m to believe you, with your past deceptions? Note: Distrustful but Loyal

      NICK

      Those were the old days, long past, I couldn’t have gotten on the ski patrol if I was still drinking.

      JOHN

      Yeah, right. The truth. I wonder who’d you pay off? You know full on it is always the same, one beer, and you’re in the hole again. And you’re a cheating drunk. Note: Confrontational – to get Nick to show his worst side but the thing about drinking seems to come out of the blue.

      NICK

      5 years sober last Wednesday.

      JOHN

      Well, I’ve been hearing otherwise.

      NICK (caught in his lie)

      Fuck ‘em if they can’t take it! – Note: rebellious

      JOHN

      Look, a million bucks say you had something to do with it—time to take off the Superman suit. Is it any coincidence you arrived even before I called a code red? I’m railroaded because I left my jacket to keep the old guy warm. You were still there when I left skiing down the gnarliest conditions to arrange for the ambulance. Note: Unsure of trait here. I don’t understand the Superman remark.

      LUCY (21) comes out of the kitchen all dolled up, dressed in a chef’s apron.

      LUCY

      Hey boys. What’s up lover-(kisses Nick). You guys still at it? Note: Didn’t they just come in?

      JOHN

      Hey Luce. (turns back to Nick) You moonlight for the guy. I wouldn’t have taken him up the mountain if I knew he was sick. Nick, you know more than you tell and wanting more from the old guy. Note: Confused. Why would a patrolman take an old guy up the mountain?

      NICK

      God help you. You’ll need help with your storytelling if you want to get out of this one because you knew he couldn’t do a black diamond. Note: Conniving trait, but I’m still confused about what was John’s involvement before the accident happened.

      JOHN

      Hey man (putting his arm on Nick’s), how would I have known he couldn’t do a black diamond…maybe it’s time to tell the truth behind your story. Note: As a patrolman why wouldn’t he know that it was very dangerous?

      NICK

      Lucy, will you please set this loner straight? Note: Telling us the loner trait – dialogue doesn’t follow from above.

      LUCY (lightheartedly, with a quick conspiratorial smile)

      John, I was with Nick, don’t you remember? Sure, it was foggy towards the bottom of the mountain, with two feet of fresh powder at the top. People were having fun. Hey, I’m going to see you later in the kitchen for tonight’s function, right? You promised.

      NICK

      What’s going on here? (jokingly) John, you have my permission to take my lady into the kitchen.

      JOHN

      Are you jealous? Look, I committed to helping Luce in the kitchen before all this happened. But we’re not done with this conversation. There’s something off here, and I will find out what it is.

      Nick grabs Lucy around the waist and pulls her close, revealing tattoos on her arm. Note: Intentional or incidental reveal. Mislead?

      JOHN

      Hey, wait a minute… that’s it! Luce, that last ink you got says it- the one Nick really didn’t like – what does it say?

      NICK (interrupting)

      What are you talking about? Leave her out of this!

      JOHN

      Luce, you know something, I can see it in your eyes. (Lucy looks away, throwing a casual glance at Nick)

      NICK

      Her name is Lucy. (turns to Lucy) I don’t know how you put up with this guy. Doesn’t trust anybody, not even his friends. There’s no evidence, John. They are not going to put you in jail. Note: I don’t understand where this is coming from.

      JOHN

      I’m taking a big risk here. The patrol does the trail checks and handles the mountain signage, but the sign was missing. The old man was ahead of me and didn’t know it was a black diamond until he dropped in. By then it was too late. Note: Seems to disagree with what he said above.

      NICK

      (quickly start leading Lucy away) Come on, Hun, let’s leave this loser. Once a loner, always a loner. Note: Another loner comment.

      LUCY

      Nick, enough. I have proof of your involvement. I found this note in the snow after they took the old man down in the gurney. Don’t you recognize it? This is the note you gave the old man, it must have fallen out of his pocket that day.

      (NICK turns to Lucy) Sweetie, you must be mistaken. I’ve never seen this note, in fact…

      JOHN

      Admit it Nick? You are a conniving asshole. You knew the old guy was sick. You set this up.

      LUCY

      Nick, I ain’t going anywhere with you unless you admit this whole thing was another one of your schemes. The note proves it.

      NICK
      (laughing) Oh yeah, right, I admit nothing.

      Nick suddenly whips around, grabbing John by the neck.

      NICK CON’T)

      Why, you worthless piece of shit! I hope they hang you!

      JOHN
      Hey, you’d be wise to let go schmuck- and look around you. Meet ALL MY friends.

      NICK

      You ain’t got no friends, dude.

      A group of ski patrolmen gathers, with other locals menacingly encircling Nick. Trying one more time to side-punch John, John dodges the blow. Nick, missing, is thrown off balance, and slips, cracking his head on the nearby ski rack. Trapped, eyes wild, blood streams down his face.

      The gang of locals jumps in, grabbing Nick. Cackling loudly, they hang him by his parka on the ski rack. The crowd cheers John on as the investigative team arrives. In a full curtsy, Lucy hands the implicating note to the investigator in charge.

      JOHN (admiringly, turns towards Lucy)

      It’s about time…thanks, Luce, I couldn’t have done it without you… and the gang.

      John gives her a hot kiss on the lips, lifting her arm, showing her tattoo, “THE TRUTH REVEALS ALL.”

      LUCY (reaching for John’s hand)

      Come on babe, let’s go, we got a flock to feed tonight. (Turning towards Nick) Hell, he’s finally gonna to get more than just hanging on the rack.

      Summary: I found all of the character traits but John’s “daring” trait. Interest techniques: I found suspense, a twist when John reveals he has friends, one of whom is Nicks’ girlfriend, so that’s a betrayal, and I was intrigued to learn what was going on between these guys!

      However, I struggled to understand Nick’s motivation. From his subtext, we know that he loves manipulating people, but I wanted to know why (because of his giving trait) that he would have taken advantage of a sick old man on a dangerous ski slope? Is he that evil, or was he drinking? Is that what John was trying to get him to admit? And why is Nick pretending to help John get off the hook if he knows he’s is the one who is guilty? Because he’s so confident? I didn’t catch that, but it makes sense.

      — ESSENCE: A lone wolf must rely on friendship in order to reveal the truth

      Maybe rethink this essence? John is a loner who relies on his friends to reveal that Nick is responsible requires John to have had a character change prior to this scene. We don’t get to see how he got all these friends to come to his aid so it’s a total surprise. John knows the truth about the note from Lucy so his subtext is to trick Nick into showing his worst side – which he does, but not because of his distrust of people anymore.

      Maybe have Lucy read the note before the guys enter to create dramatic irony?

      • Tim Adeney

        Member
        March 6, 2023 at 4:21 am

        hi Shelley,

        Thanks for your feedback on my scene – appreciated. And helpful, yes. It’s hard to make every element work.

        Yes, I did try to use the other character to indicate the trait of the ‘other’ character as a technique. Not ideal, I think, as you pointed out, but it can be helpful sometimes. Thank you for showing where the traits and subtext emerged in the scene for you. Nice to know some of it is coming through 🙂

        To your scene: I love the essence idea, really, but like Mary points out, it’s not yet reading in the scene. I find I add a new technique and something else gets lost – perhaps that happened to you. As Mary has gone through the scene I won’t do that as well.

        I found the scene intriguing – there was a mystery to be solved and this kept me engaged. Both characters seemed to be after something which was interesting, but the payoff at the end was not clear – Mary mentioned Nick’s motivation. Is he seeking a confession, or looking for something to cover up whatever he needs covered up maybe?

        My impressions of the characters:

        Nick’s confidence and conniving nature comes through; also his giving in places. And he’s still drinking on the job, so rebellioius – well done:)

        John is daring – being a ski instructor taking risks; clearly distrustful. Loyal? I guess he was in relation to his client, and to Lucy in a way. It’s not clear he’s a loner, but it’s implied in that nobody greets him initially. I can easily believe that even though a loner, he’s seen by others as a loyal member of the team.

        Interest techniques – slow reveal of information was effective; there is a major twist and Nick changes radically to reveal his true self; there’s hope/fear as we wonder who’s in the wrong here. I wonder if this scene could have been played out on the slopes, waiting for the investigators to come up to the body? Not sure Lucy could have been included, but maybe she’s another instructor or something like that.

        Hope that helps 🙂 Well done.

    • Madeleind Gentinetta

      Member
      March 6, 2023 at 9:40 am

      Hi Shelley

      Because you already got feedback from others, I am trying a new approach: I point out some elements where I think you could heighten the traits… these are just suggestions. I like the scene, but I also think you have a lot of potentials to strengthen the interest techniques simply by cutting the part of the sentences where they say the obvious things.

      Here are some examples of heightening the interest technique and traits.

      NICK (28) (waiting for John to catch up)
      Hey man, let’s get a back table. We need to get your story straight. (Potential for more suspense with more subtext than saying what it’s all about)

      NICK (CON’T)
      Look, the investigator is due any minute, and I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. (same)

      JOHN
      Why are you worrying about me, dude, it’s not your business, I can work this out. (same)

      JOHN
      Yeah, right. The truth. I wonder who’d you pay off? You know full on it is always the same, one beer, and you’re in the hole again. And you’re a cheating drunk. (Potential to shorten to make surprise stronger)

      JOHN
      Hey Luce. (turns back to Nick) You moonlight for the guy. I wouldn’t have taken him up the mountain if I knew he was sick. Nick, you know more than you tell and wanting more from the old guy. (Potential for more intrigue by just making allusion than saying it out loud, could also add the trait of John’s distrustfulness).

      JOHN
      Are you jealous? Look, I committed to helping Luce in the kitchen before all
      this happened. But we’re not done with this conversation. There’s something off
      here, and I will find out what it is. (Potential
      for more intrigue with more subtext than saying what it’s all about).

      JOHN
      Hey, wait a minute… that’s it! Luce, that last ink you got says it- the one
      Nick really didn’t like – what does it say? (To heighten suspens and intrigue:
      Maybe have John just says: your last ink… )

      NICK (interrupting)
      <div>
      What are you talking about? Leave her out of this! (Potential for more
      intrigue, just keep: Leave her out of this!)</div><div>

      etc.

      Keep elevating – good luck!

      </div>

  • Laurie Stoner

    Member
    March 4, 2023 at 2:10 pm

    Logline: John desperately wants to get his hands on the rare plant that Nick has in his possession

    Essence: John will do anything to rebuild his reputation but he needs Nick to provide him with the means

    Expression: Nick and John bargain over the plant until both they learn Maggie may have betrayed them both

    EXT. BOTANICAL GARDENS, FT. LAUDERDALE – DAY

    Lush tropical plants and palm trees line a walkway along the beach.

    JOHN, 54, rugged individualist specializing in rare plant identification, paces impatiently, vaping. He checks his watch.

    JOHN

    Damn you, Nick, can’t you ever be on time?

    He takes a long drag on the e-cigarette, and notices out of the corner of his eye–

    The BUSHES are moving. He strides over and separates the branches.

    NICK, 45, explorer and trader in rare flora and fauna, is down on all fours. He shushes John with a finger over his lips.

    JOHN

    What are you doing down there?

    NICK

    Spotted an iguana. Thought you’d want me to nab him. Little buggers will eat their weight in your precious mangoes —

    JOHN

    Iguana, my ass. You were sneaking up on me.

    NICK

    I was doing you a favor, man.

    JOHN

    if anything, you saw fruit rat. They’re everywhere. Admit it. You were skulking, about to pull one of your screwball stunts.

    Nick bats the brush. An iguana scurries up a tree.

    NICK

    When are you going to learn you can trust me?

    JOHN

    Cut the crap. I haven’t got all day. Where is it?

    NICK

    Where’s what?

    JOHN

    My plant!

    NICK

    First things first, let’s come to terms on my commission.

    JOHN

    You want me to set a dollar amount? If it’s what you say it is, and I get the jump in id’ing it before everyone else —

    NICK

    85,000.

    JOHN

    I’ll give you 15,000.

    NICK

    50.

    JOHN

    20 and not a dollar more.

    NICK

    And you’ll pay up? In dollars not pesos?

    JOHN

    I’m not like you. My word is my bond.

    NICK

    (laughing)

    Okay, then in the spirit of keeping our beautiful friendship alive… You’ve got a deal.

    Nick grabs him by the shoulders, looks him straight in the eye.

    JOHN

    I’ll have the money for you tomorrow at noon. You be here with it.

    NICK

    I’ll have the specimen, but not here. Somewhere private.

    JOHN

    My beach house then.

    NICK

    You think I’d take it through customs? Have the Feds confiscate it? No way.

    JOHN

    You know goddamn well I’m not allowed to leave the country. They took my passport– The one time I trusted cost me everything! You owe me. here, tomorrow, or the deal is off.

    NICK

    Baloney. You need this. You need me.

    JOHN

    I don’t need anyone!

    NICK

    You needed Maggie! You’re still blaming me because you lost her. She was ready to split, man. Because you married to your job and your reputation.

    JOHN

    She was everything to me! You stole her, sweet talked her with your lies! You manipulated us both and now you’re going to set it right.

    NICK

    You think you can order me around! I’ve got two other bidders in play. I was just going to give you the first crack at it. We’re through here.

    John grabs his arm. Nick whips around, pulls a knife.

    JOHN

    Once again, you were playing me for a chump. Maggie called last night. Told me you struck out with those other buyers. I’m your last play.

    John maneuvers around Nick, closely watching the hand with the knife.

    NICK

    Well, whatta you know.

    JOHN

    Do we have a deal or not?

    NICK

    Seems our girl is playing us both for chumps.

    JOHN

    No! She’s through with you. Learned who’s the better man. She wants to get back to me.

    NICK

    She has the plant, man. I’d say she has another fish on the line, and you’re gonna get another Dear John letter…

    John lunges for Nick. Knife goes flying.

    Close on IGUANA in tree, watching the men fight.

    • Shelley darling

      Member
      March 5, 2023 at 6:55 pm

      Feedback for Mary Stoner QE2

      Hi Mary,

      You have a potent set-up with the location in the botanical gardens. John’s vaping and pacing begin the scene with suspense and intrigue. After reading through the scene, I thought what might add to the setting is to start either at dawn or dusk, possibly adding a bit of added suspense immediately, as it would take place before the gardens open or after closing, immediately letting the audience know something’s up.

      The Essence says, “John will do anything to rebuild his reputation.” I suggest giving this more attention to show how John does this, empowering the scene’s essence.

      Wow. Maggie has betrayed them both! I would have liked to see her in the scene, get to know her, and see/feel more directly how she accomplishes this. It would add juice, and then the guys would have to respond before the fight. (It could also allow for other Interest techniques)

      I hope this inspires you- great work!

      Shelley

    • Tim Adeney

      Member
      March 6, 2023 at 4:50 am

      Logline: John desperately wants to get his hands on the rare plant that Nick has in his possession

      Essence: John will do anything to rebuild his reputation but he needs Nick to provide him with the means

      Expression: Nick and John bargain over the plant until both they learn Maggie may have betrayed them both

      EXT. BOTANICAL GARDENS, FT. LAUDERDALE – DAY

      Lush tropical plants and palm trees line a walkway along the beach.

      JOHN, 54, rugged individualist specializing in rare plant identification, paces impatiently, vaping. He checks his watch.

      JOHN

      Damn you, Nick, can’t you ever be on time? [SUSPENSE; MAYBE DISTRUSTFUL]

      He takes a long drag on the e-cigarette, and notices out of the corner of his eye–

      The BUSHES are moving. He strides over and separates the branches.

      NICK, 45, explorer and trader in rare flora and fauna, is down on all fours. He shushes John with a finger over his lips. [REBELLIOUS – HE’S LATE AND DOING SOMETHING…]

      JOHN

      What are you doing down there?

      NICK

      Spotted an iguana. Thought you’d want me to nab him. Little buggers will eat their weight in your precious mangoes — [CONNIVING/CONFIDENT/REBELLIOUS/ GIVING – TAKE YOUR PICK :)]

      JOHN

      Iguana, my ass. You were sneaking up on me. [DISTRUSTFUL]

      NICK

      I was doing you a favor, man. [GIVING]

      JOHN

      if anything, you saw fruit rat. They’re everywhere. Admit it. You were skulking, about to pull one of your screwball stunts. [DISTRUSTFUL]

      Nick bats the brush. An iguana scurries up a tree.

      NICK

      When are you going to learn you can trust me? [JOHN’S TRAIT; MAYBE MANIPULATIVE]

      JOHN

      Cut the crap. I haven’t got all day. Where is it?

      NICK

      Where’s what? [CONNIVING]

      JOHN

      My plant!

      NICK

      First things first, let’s come to terms on my commission. [CONNIVING; CONFIDENT; HOPE]

      JOHN

      You want me to set a dollar amount? If it’s what you say it is, and I get the jump in id’ing it before everyone else —

      NICK

      85,000. [FEAR]

      JOHN

      I’ll give you 15,000.

      NICK

      50.

      JOHN

      20 and not a dollar more.

      NICK

      And you’ll pay up? In dollars not pesos? [DISTRUSTFUL – JOHN’S TRAIT?; HOPE]

      JOHN

      I’m not like you. My word is my bond. [LOYAL]

      NICK

      (laughing)

      Okay, then in the spirit of keeping our beautiful friendship alive… You’ve got a deal. [HOPE] [CONNIVING? OR GIVING?]

      Nick grabs him by the shoulders, looks him straight in the eye. [NOT SURE WHY THIS COMES HERE]

      JOHN

      I’ll have the money for you tomorrow at noon. You be here with it. [HOPE]

      NICK

      I’ll have the specimen, but not here. Somewhere private.

      JOHN

      My beach house then.

      NICK

      You think I’d take it through customs? Have the Feds confiscate it? No way. [CONNIVING]

      JOHN

      You know goddamn well I’m not allowed to leave the country. [FEAR] They took my passport– The one time I trusted cost me everything! [THIS LINE IS A BIT ON THE NOSE] You owe me. here, tomorrow, or the deal is off.

      NICK

      Baloney. You need this. You need me. [FEAR]

      JOHN

      I don’t need anyone! [LONER]

      NICK

      You needed Maggie! You’re still blaming me because you lost her. She was ready to split, man. Because you married to your job and your reputation. [GIVING – THE TRUTH] [MISLEAD ABOUT MAGGIE]

      JOHN

      She was everything to me! You stole her, sweet talked her with your lies! You manipulated us both and now you’re going to set it right. [DARING]

      NICK

      You think you can order me around! I’ve got two other bidders in play. I was just going to give you the first crack at it. We’re through here.

      John grabs his arm. Nick whips around, pulls a knife. [REBELLIOUS; CONNIVING; SURPRISE]

      JOHN

      Once again, you were playing me for a chump. Maggie called last night. Told me you struck out with those other buyers. I’m your last play. [TWIST/REVEAL] [MORE MISLEAD ON MAGGIE]

      John maneuvers around Nick, closely watching the hand with the knife.

      NICK

      Well, whatta you know.

      JOHN

      Do we have a deal or not? [HOPE]

      NICK

      Seems our girl is playing us both for chumps. [FEAR; REVEAL/SURPRISE]

      JOHN

      No! She’s through with you. Learned who’s the better man. She wants to get back to me. [LOYAL]

      NICK

      She has the plant, man. I’d say she has another fish on the line, and you’re gonna get another Dear John letter… [IF HE’S GIVING, HE MIGHT OFFER TO JOIN WITH JOHN AGAINST MAGGIE, BUT AS JOHN’S DISTRUSTFUL, HE REFUSES AND STARTS THE FIGHT]

      John lunges for Nick. Knife goes flying.

      Close on IGUANA in tree, watching the men fight.

      AS YOU CAN SEE ABOVE, lots happening throughout the scene to see if the deal is going to happen or not, and lots of traits coming through. Nice twist/reveal with Maggie. I wonder if you could have used the setting more to create a physical cat and mouse between the plants, at least initially. Maybe Nick hints that the plant is somewhere around and John’s searching and Nick’s laughing about it – enjoying the manipulation. Of course, it all has to happen under 5 pages so can’t do everything. Anyway, hope that helps 🙂

      Thanks for your feedback on my scene – I like the idea of the text message in the beginning; that would have worked well I think, to give clarity to what was going on. BTW, in my mind, Nick only realises that he loves Jess during the scene – it’s a discovery for him as well as he finds out John’s true feelings. Maybe that doesn’t work…

  • Madeleind Gentinetta

    Member
    March 6, 2023 at 8:24 am

    Madeleine’s rewrite QE cycle 2 for feedback

    Logline: Monk John wants monk Nikolaos to confess the sexual abuses he committed.

    Essence: John makes the biggest sacrifice to get to the truth.

    Scene:

    EXT. FORECOURT MONASTERY – DAY

    JOHN (76), in a monk’s cowl, drops an envelope in a letterbox.

    He crosses the forecourt of a monastery. He looks up at the large church clock.

    When it hits half past five, John unlocks the wooden door to the church tower and disappears behind it.

    INT. CHURCH TOWER, STAIRCASE – DAY

    John gasps when he climbs the steep stairs. He lifts his habit so he does not stumble over it.

    When he arrives at the level where the clocks hang, there is a little niche with a cross. John crosses himself.

    JOHN

    And forgive us our sins, as we forgive those who sin against us.

    EXT. CHURCH TOWER TOP – DAY

    John arrives on top, very exhausted. He gazes over the city calmly when the clock hits a quarter to five o’clock.

    Then he listens carefully when he hears somebody coming up the stairs with heavy steps.

    NICK

    Brother John? Already up there – or do you need some help?

    JOHN

    Brother Nikolaos?

    NICK (46) arrives on top of the church tower.

    NICK

    My god… why so formal?

    John stands in front of Nick and holds his arms apart. Nick smiles sneakily.

    NICK

    This is no passion play.

    JOHN

    Don’t you want to search me?

    NICK

    Of course not… you’re a minister of God, his most loyal one…

    JOHN

    I could have a recording device.

    Nick laughs.

    NICK

    Even if you had one… it would not be of much use.

    JOHN

    Why?

    (pause)

    Do you have a gun?

    Nick spreads his arms. John searches Nick but does not find anything.

    JOHN

    Why do we have to meet up here? The confessional booth in the church is more practical.

    NICK

    I don’t want to confess… I just want to talk to you.

    JOHN

    It’s about time…

    NICK

    Did you already send the accusations along to the bishop?

    JOHN

    No, not yet. I want to hear from you…

    NICK

    Well done… I see there is still some good spirit left, then.

    JOHN

    All that matters, is the truth…. and I want it to hear from you…

    NICK

    These allegations are lies, that’s the truth.

    John turns around and loosens a stone in the wall. Takes out a gun from behind the rock and points it at Nick.

    Nick tries to hide that he is losing his confidence.

    NICK

    You… and a gun? This is not in the name of the lord…

    JOHN

    In the name of the lord… I will play this game… with different rules than you might expect.

    NICK

    What do you want me to say?

    JOHN

    As I said… the truth.

    NICK

    You threaten me… even if I would admit everything they say… it will be a forced confession and that… you cannot use in court.

    JOHN

    Bright as usual… that’s why I have a different plan… I actually want to help you.

    Nick relaxes a bit.

    JOHN

    You might not know… but I’m terminally ill… maybe a couple more months to live… and then that’s it.

    Nick smiles.

    NICK

    I’m sorry to hear that.

    JOHN

    Therefore my plan… you confess to me… I give you the absolution, and you shut me with this gun with all my fingerprints, and it looks like… a suicide… the bishop knows I’m terminally ill…

    Nick smiles even more.

    NICK

    That’s brilliant… you’re… I love the idea of absolution…

    JOHN

    Up to you.

    Nick gets nervous.

    NICK

    First, there was this incident with Maya…

    All the church bells start RINGING at six o’clock for a long time.

    Nick shouts a John, but his words are drowned by the sound of the bells for the audience. John understands what Nick says and nods.

    After a couple of minutes the bells stop ringing. Nick sits down.

    NICK

    I feel better now… when it’s all out… thank you for doing this…

    John still shakes his head in disbelief.

    NICK

    Where is the gun?

    Nick smiles again.

    JOHN

    Oh… let’s not forget the absolution… can you give me my absolution before killing myself… before I absolve you?

    Nick stops smiling.

    NICK

    Is this a trick?

    (pause)

    Why not? I love this absolution game.

    Nicks goes toward John and puts his hand on John’s front.

    NICK

    Deinde ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus sancti. Amen.

    John smiles at Nick, and Nick smiles back.

    JOHN

    Let me take a final look at mother earth before I join our father in heaven…

    He approaches the reeling of the church tower, leans over it, and throws himself over the reeling with a yank.

    NICK

    John! What about…

    Nick watches John falling down the tower in disbelief.

    NICK

    My absolution?

    INT. BISHOP’S RESIDENCY, DAY

    The hand in white gloves with a bishop’s ring opens an envelope with a prestigious letter opener.

    The BISHOP reads the letter and MUMBLES incomprehensibly.

    BISHOP

    (reading)

    Reverend… by the time you read this, I’m already with the lord.

    (pause)

    If I ended my life by suicide by jumping off the church tower, all the allegations against the priest, Nikolaos Salvatore, are true… The sacrifice of my life is proof of it.

    The bishop drops the letter, and it floats to the floor.

    • Laurie Stoner

      Member
      March 7, 2023 at 3:34 pm

      Brilliant twist at the end of the scene! Not exactly a fight, but with the well-written setup of the letter I thought it paid off nicely. I also thought you made good use of setting, suspense, mislead/revel, and character change. I found both characters’ subtext, but the character traits in the dialogue were quite subtle, mostly q & a. I suggest making another pass to make their traits stronger.

      • Madeleind Gentinetta

        Member
        March 7, 2023 at 7:47 pm

        Thank you, Mary! I’m very busy this week and don’t know yet, if I can give more feedback on your story or anybody else.

  • hilton Garrett

    Member
    March 7, 2023 at 5:24 pm

    Logline: John saves Nick and seeks the money

    Essence: You can’t trust anybody over here

    BEGIN SCENE

    EXT. MIDDLE EAST VILLAGE, DARK STREET – NIGHT

    Bullets fly. A brown sedan speeds through a cloud of bullets, barely avoids being hit. It careens around a corner, screeches to a halt. John Mackley, the driver, leans toward the open window.

    JOHN

    Hurry up! Get in!

    Nick Doughty steps out from a darkened doorway. He glances toward the sound of the gunshots. Footsteps. The shooters are closing fast.

    Nick looks through the window and sees John behind the wheel.

    NICK

    Where the fuck’s Danny?

    JOHN

    The same place you’re gonna be if you don’t get in now! Let’s go!

    Nick opens the door and falls in. John peels out as two gunmen round the corner. They spray the car with bullets. The back window shatters. A tire blows.

    John drives as fast as the car will go on the wobbly tire. Bullets smash into the trunk. Bullets whiz by his head.

    JOHN

    (to Nick)

    Stay down!

    After four blocks he takes out a clicker and punches a button. A door rattles up. He turns hard into a garage.

    INT. GARAGE – NIGHT

    A beat-up, dust-covered Toyota pickup.

    JOHN

    That’s our ride! Let’s go!

    They climb into the truck. John turns the key. The engine grinds. It won’t fire. He tries again.

    NICK

    Does this thing run?

    John twists the key hard, leans into it. It fires.

    Then dies.

    NICK

    Jesus, they’re gonna be here any second.

    John twists the key again. Finally the thing starts.

    John pulls out and floors it down a deserted street. The garage door crawls back down.

    INT. TRUCK – NIGHT

    NICK

    So they got Danny?

    JOHN

    Yeah.

    NICK

    Fuck!

    John looks over at him.

    NICK

    Let’s give him a moment of silence, alright? I owe him that. I’m gonna close my eyes. You just keep driving.

    With Nick’s eyes closed, John drapes his arm across the seat back. He holds a pistol in his right hand. After the moment of silence…

    NICK

    Move your arm, it’s bothering me.

    JOHN

    It’s holding a gun to your head.

    NICK

    What the hell for?

    JOHN

    Insurance.

    NICK

    What insurance? You know I broke off from the Taliban.

    JOHN

    Like that means I can trust you now? You did it so you could take all the money for yourself.

    NICK

    And now you want it.

    JOHN

    It’s not for me. It’s for the refugees.

    NICK

    Yeah, right…. Are you working with them?

    JOHN

    I don’t exactly work with anyone.

    NICK

    What are you doing here, then?

    JOHN

    I’m here on a mission. Right now it’s saving your sorry ass.

    NICK

    Look, I made a deal with Remi. He gets me out and I tell him where the money is hidden.

    JOHN

    Remi has abandoned you.

    NICK

    Whaaat? No way! Why would he do that?

    JOHN

    He found out on his own. They don’t need you.

    NICK

    That’s bullshit! I know where it is. They can’t find it without me.

    JOHN

    They don’t need you, Nick. You’re toast to them. Did you wonder who was shooting at you back there?

    NICK

    Nah, I’m the only one that knows where the money is, I’m good.

    JOHN

    Remi’s men, that’s who was shooting at you. Does that make you feel good?

    Nick thinks this through. Maybe John is right.

    NICK

    That son of a bitch. Can’t trust anybody over here.

    JOHN

    Now might be a good time for you to tell me.

    NICK

    So you can kill me and take it for yourself? Fuck that.

    JOHN

    The refugees need it a lot more than I do. And one of them saved my life.

    NICK

    Still, I tell you, you kill me and then who knoooows where the money goes?

    JOHN

    I can drop you off back where I picked you up and you can work it out with those guys if you don’t believe me…. But I’m telling you Nick, they don’t need you.

    NICK

    Maybe they don’t, but you do.

    JOHN

    That’s why I drove through hell to get to you. Where is it, Nick?

    NICK

    I want half. That was my deal with Remi.

    JOHN

    Remi was trying to kill you. So you got squat with him. But… that’s reasonable. I’ll do it.

    NICK

    And you get me to the airport?

    JOHN

    If you don’t try something stupid.

    NICK

    You know me, John. I’d never do that.

    JOHN

    I do know you, Nick, and the clock is ticking.

    NICK

    Alright, alright. It’s in a shot-up store at the edge of town.

    JOHN

    Let’s go.

    They come on a war-scarred section of town. Burned-out cars and mortar craters mark a scene of violence.

    NICK

    That’s it, there, on the corner. Pull over.

    John pulls over to the curb. They look around. Nothing.

    JOHN

    Don’t forget I’ve got a gun on you.

    EXT. BURNED-OUT STORE – NIGHT

    Nick pushes on the metal door. It scrapes along the floor and screeches open. They creep inside on high alert.

    INT. BURNED-OUT STORE – NIGHT

    Nick leads the way. John follows with the gun at Nick’s back.

    The place is almost pitch black. Nick feels along the wall and stops at a doorway.

    NICK

    You got a lighter or something?

    John reaches in his pocket and pulls out a Bic. As he does Nick drops to the floor and comes up hard and knocks the gun and lighter from John’s hand. Nick grabs the gun.

    John swings a kick to Nick’s head. He misses. Nick shoots.

    The bullet grazes John in the side. Off the muzzle flash he dives at Nick and takes him down.

    They fight in the dirt on the floor. John gets the gun back and knocks Nick hard up side the head. And once more just because.

    He locates the lighter with his foot, and picks it up.

    With the gun firmly in one hand, John lights the Bic with the other.

    Blood streams down Nick’s face.

    JOHN

    That was something stupid.

    NICK

    I had to try.

    JOHN

    Any more of that you lose your ride to the airport. Get your ass in gear!

    NICK

    Alright, alright. The money’s in the floor. Under this table.

    JOHN

    Get it. And if you come out of there with a gun in your hand you’re a dead man.

    Nick opens the hatch, reaches in and pulls out a sack.

    JOHN

    Open it.

    Nick opens the bag. He pulls out a pistol. Before he can complete his turn and shoot, John blows him away. One shot to the head.

    Nick’s brains and the rest of his body fall to the floor. John collects the bag and the gun and hurries back to the truck.

    EXT. DARK STREET – NIGHT

    The truck starts this time. John drops it in gear. Remi’s men come flying down the street. A man leans out the window and lets off a burst of shots. John tears off in the Toyota.

    Bullets bang and clatter off the truck bed as John disappears around a corner. Remi’s men give chase.

    END SCENE

  • James Landers

    Member
    March 7, 2023 at 6:05 pm

    <div>James’ rewrite QE Cycle 2 for critique</div>

    Logline: Nick discovers that two women rejected his offer of help because his friend John warned them about him.

    Essence: John’s true feelings about Nick emerge in a chance encounter with two women.

    EXT. WILDERNESS ISLAND – DAY

    Wind whips the small island and dark clouds portend severe rain. NICK (late 20s, tall, muscular) and JOHN (late 20s, wiry, average height) finish setting up their tent. While John puts their gear in the tent, Nick walks 50 yards, to a clearing in the forest, where CHRISTY (mid-20s, outdoorsy, wearing a Sierra Club t-shirt) and JAZZ (mid-20s, blonde hair, paler skin, novice outdoorsman) struggle to erect a tarp to protect their cooking area from wind and rain. Their tent is nearby.

    NICK

    I can help with that.

    CHRISTY

    No thanks.

    NICK

    It’s no trouble.

    CHRISTY

    We don’t need your help.

    NICK

    I’m just offering assistance. I’m not asking for your hand in marriage.

    JAZZ

    Thank God.

    CHRISTY

    We really don’t want you anywhere near us.

    Nick nods slowly, in thought, and goes back to his tent where John is finishing up.

    NICK

    We need to talk.

    He gestures for John to follow him to the lake shore, out of earshot from the women.

    NICK

    What did you tell those two about me?

    JOHN

    Nothing. Why would I tell them anything about you?

    NICK

    They act like I’m the village flasher or something.

    JOHN

    Maybe they just don’t like you.

    NICK

    They don’t know me. Why would they dislike me already?

    John shrugs and starts back to the tent.

    NICK

    Wait a minute. You were talking to them while I unloaded the canoe. You never do the chatty stuff. You’re a loner’s loner. What did you say?

    JOHN

    Just chatty stuff. Not everything’s about you, Nick.

    NICK

    Tell me. Tell me now.

    JOHN

    Or what? You’ll beat it out of me?

    NICK

    Or I tell your wife about the hooker at Bill’s bachelor party.

    JOHN

    I thought we were friends. I would never betray you like that. I thought you felt the same way.

    NICK

    I do. That’s why I never mentioned it. And I won’t, as long as you tell me what’s going on here.

    JOHN

    I can’t talk to you any more. You don’t keep confidences. You were the one person in my life I thought I could trust, and now I see, I can’t.

    NICK

    Stop mewling. What’s their issue?

    JOHN

    Maybe they just don’t like men.

    NICK

    Don’t fuck with me, John. They talked with you easy enough. Come on.

    JOHN

    It’s that important to you?

    NICK

    Yeah.

    JOHN

    I told them you were at the January 6th insurrection.

    NICK

    Why would you do that?

    JOHN

    They’re Sierra Clubbers, Nick. They don’t want any part of people like you.

    NICK

    Like me? What does that mean?

    JOHN

    It means you’re anti everything and not in a good way. Even though you’re my friend, you’re a fucked up Nazi. People need to be warned.

    Amazement and wonder sweep over Nick’s face. He flushes red. He glowers at John, and then he explodes with a vicious punch to John’s abdomen.

  • Bill

    Member
    March 15, 2023 at 4:42 pm

    Bill’s rewrite QE Cycle 2 for critique:

    LOGLINE: Ext. Day. Backyard of John’s upscale home

    ESSENCE: Two men trying to extract information from each other

    SCENE:

    John just sits down in his lounge chair by his backyard pool on Saturday afternoon and sets a cool drink on the table. The patio sliding door is open so he hears clearly the doorbell ring, but he hesitates to get up. Finally, after the third ring, he shouts, daring the visitor to enter.

    JOHN

    I’M IN THE BACKYARD. IF IT’S IMPORTANT, COME IN.

    The door opens and Nick comes to the backyard carrying a briefcase and a newspaper. The yard is orderly, and the pool water is clear. There is no evidence of a wife or children.

    NICK

    Hello, my name is Nick Foster.

    How are you today?

    Nick hands John the folded newspaper he found on the driveway.

    JOHN

    As you can see, I am relaxing and

    Not wishing to be disturbed!

    NICK

    I understand. I will just take a moment of your time.

    JOHN

    By the way. I always throw this newspaper in the recycle bin.

    It is full of crap. I never read it. They won’t stop sending it.

    NICK

    Sorry. ‘just wanted to give you something—to warm up our conversation.

    JOHN

    You are not here to give me anything.

    You are here to get something from me.

    Probably my money or my vote. Which is it?

    Nick laughs, but accepts the challenge of John’s belligerence.

    NICK

    Neither. I have something that you will enjoy reading.

    Nick opens his briefcase.

    JOHN

    Wait. Before you go any further, I’m not interested.

    NICK

    You can’t say that. You haven’t seen what it is I bring you.

    Nick hands John a brochure but John doesn’t look at it.

    NICK

    Nick looks around the back yard and pool.

    I can see you are doing well for yourself. What is your household income?

    JOHN

    That is none of your business.

    Nick

    It helps me to know which program I present to you.

    I would not offer something that would be a hardship for you.

    John is determined not to reveal this information to someone he doesn’t know.

    JOHN

    Why don’t you tell me how much you are planning to make from me on

    whatever it is you are selling? Tell me. I’d like to know.

    NICK

    What I have for you is going to save you tons of money

    JOHN

    Yeah. Sure. Tell me what your cut is.

    NICK

    This is the deal. I represent the Sunrise Solar Systems.

    With this system installed on your house you will never pay an electricity bill again.

    JOHN

    You know what? I really doubt that!

    NICK

    How much do you now pay for electricity?

    JOHN

    I am not going to tell you that!

    NICK

    But I must know so I can show you how much you will save?

    Imagine. What will you do with the money you now pay for electricity?

    JOHN

    I will set up an electric fence to keep salesmen off my property.

    NICK

    You don’t understand. I’m here to help you. Right now, there

    are government rebates that will soon be gone. You don’t want to pass this up.

    John is getting more and more irritated.

    JOHN

    LOOK! IF I WERE to buy solar panels, I would get them from my sister’s husband. I certainly would not buy them from some door-to-door punk.

    NICK

    What company does he represent? The Sunrise system is much more efficient.

    That will save you lots more in the long run.

    JOHN

    That does not matter. I would keep it in the family.

    NICK

    Just tell me your annual electricity bill—and I will prepare a plan

    That, I am confident, you will like—when you see how much you save.

    JOHN

    NO! I will not tell you that! Not until you tell me how much you make off this scam.

    By now Nick is also irritated.

    John gets up off his lounge and gives Nick a strong shove.

    NICK

    OK, OK! I get to keep the down payment check you give me today.

    JOHN

    I thought so, you conniving scum!

    John gives Nick another shove. This time Nick falls into the pool.

    Fight ensures.

    End of Scene.

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