• RAMSEY ANDERSON

    Member
    June 22, 2023 at 5:33 am

    Ramsey’s Budget

    3. Learned? Meh.

    1. Decrease the budget? I’d keep these:

    MAIN VARIABLES

    Number of Locations

    Expensive locations

    Number of characters

    Special effects

    Crowd scenes

    Stunts, Chase scenes, and Fight scenes

    Special sets

    SECONDARY VARIABLES

    Rights to music, brands

    Explosions and Firearm

    Weather — Rain

    Water and underwater scenes

    Night scenes

    Helicopters, aircraft, drone shots

    Green screen work

    Extensive Make-up

    2. Then go through the list and tell us what you might add if your budget was quadrupled.

    Stunts, Chase scenes, and Fight scenes

    Special sets

    Rights to music, brands

    Explosions and Firearm

    Weather — Rain

    Green screen work

    Extensive Make-up

  • Tom Wilson

    Member
    June 24, 2023 at 8:13 pm

    Tom’s Budget

    Doing this assignment, I sought the best value possible for the budget.

    Main Variables ———- Budget Lowered ————— Budgeted Quadrupled

    Number of Locations —–8 locations lowered to 5 ———8 locations upped to 10

    Expensive locations ——Cheap locations substituted —–3 expensive locations added

    Number of characters —- 7 characters lowered to 5 ——10 characters used

    Special effects ———– Actual props replace CGI ——–3 FX houses will do all effects

    Number of pages ———95 pages slashed to 85 ——— Pages expanded to 110

    Crowd scenes ————- 3 scenes shot on same day —–5 separate crowd scenes

    Stunt, Chase, Fight scenes —-6 events reduced to 4——- 8 scenes will be used

    Special sets ————— With changes, 1 set used for 3– 4 special sets will be used


    • This reply was modified 1 year, 10 months ago by  Tom Wilson.
  • H. Vince

    Member
    June 26, 2023 at 1:12 am

    Subject: H. Vince’s Budget

    Contained – 2023

    Lesson 9: Keeping It Low Budget

    What I learned from doing this assignment is…what could be taken out and/or added to increase or decrease the budget

    Concept: While accepting an invitation to go on
    an opposite views podcast in a remote desert location, the grid shuts down
    and the group must create a pirate podcast to seek help. <div>

    Main Conflict: Grid Shutdown

    1. Run through this list and tell us how many ways you might be able to decrease the budget for your project if that was required.

    MAIN VARIABLES

    Number of Locations: One location <div>

    Expensive locations: This could depend on renting out an already
    built remote desert location or building one just for the movie. A cheaper
    city.

    Number of characters: maybe take out the undesirable person that
    shows up

    Number of pages: keep it 90 pages

    SECONDARY VARIABLES

    Rights to music, brands, books, etc. use not as well-known
    musicians, books etc. </div><div>

    Explosions and Firearm: use a slingshot haha

    Animals – need a wrangler, more time to shoot, Humane Society: limit
    to one or two desert wildlife, and/or this could mean the type of injury
    that takes place say snake bite vs. scorpion bite/sting or just film one
    randomly in the desert without showing the actual biting taking place
    without having to have an actual snake or scorpion brought in to work with
    the actor(s)
    Weather — Rain, snow, wind, tornados- just keep it to earlier on
    later in the day mostly to avoid heat stroke, but will need sun beating
    down shots

    Night scenes: stars in the skies are common for the desert and
    beautiful!

    Helicopters, aircraft, drone shots, these can be built as models
    instead of using the real thing if need be

    Extensive Make-up: work up a sweat and get dirty with desert dust,
    grungy hair from not being able to use electric styling tools

    Archival Footage: desert remote footage should be easy, maybe make
    sure there are some Joshua Trees, dust devils and tumbleweeds

    2. Then go through the list and tell us what you might add if your budget was quadrupled.

    MAIN VARIABLES

    Number of Locations: one already built remote location, flash back
    locations </div><div>

    Expensive locations: This opens up to more choice of city locations
    to use

    Special effects: more dramatic sparking of grid shutdown, a fuse is
    blown

    Number of pages: increase it to 120 pages

    Stunts, Chase scenes, and Fight scenes: Paul goes up on roof to try
    and cover it from the monsoon damage

    Special sets: a remote location built for the movie or add-ons to existing structure

    SECONDARY VARIABLES

    Rights to music, brands, books, etc.: more well-known music &
    book brands could be shown plus some brands they had for food items </div>

    Explosions and Firearm: Firearms and ammo could be discovered hidden
    in the home
    Animals – need a wrangler, more time to shoot, Humane Society: could
    bring a few different reptile/desert life handlers for snakes/scorpions/lizards/tortoise/bat,
    bird wrangler for vultures, another for coyotes or a bobcat or skunk

    Weather — Rain, snow, wind, tornados. Could incorporate more elements
    than just the dry heat such as wind and rain/monsoons

    Night scenes: have a high power telescope

    Helicopters, aircraft, drone shots, use drones for area shots
    showing how remote it is, maybe some helicopter help at the end?

    Green screen work: Use this for help with snake/scorpion bite/sting
    maybe. Maybe use to avoid some of the outside camera work to keep the
    desirable weather in order to film a scene
    Extensive Make-up: use unnatural make-up to create fantastic
    original looks that later turn into natural weathered looks

    Archival Footage: use for flashbacks of the desert location and for
    the characters in past experiences

    Anything else dangerous that increases preparation time and/or
    Insurance. Monsoon could create roof damage which creates a hole or
    serious leak

    </div>

  • Gustavo Cosenza

    Member
    June 26, 2023 at 4:09 pm

    Gustavo’s Budget

    What I learned doing this assignment is to understand the impact of decisions at this moment. It’s nice to see the budget from this perspective at this moment.

    General Breakdown

    Victoria’s house INT – Child

    Victoria’s House EXT – Child

    Banana truck with hidden space – 10 more people

    Night – Border control – guns – stunts – 15 people

    2-4 Natual environments – 5 people

    Prison vehicle – 10 people

    Night – Escape prison vehicle – 10 people

    Government building 1st reunion closed circle – 10 people

    Forest Escape – 7 people

    Victoria’s House Raid – 5 people – guns – child

    Night – Prison killing – 10 people

    Border Control – guns – 10 people

    Lab – 5 people

    Prison building – 10 people

    Revolution HQ – 10 people

    Prison exterior – 10 people

    Government building 2nd reunion – 10 people

    Cleaning truck – 2 people

    Government building corridor – 20 people

    Government building president’s office – 30 people

    Government building corridor – 20 people

    Government building office – 2 people

    Government building press room – 30 people

    Government building president’s office – 3 people

    Cleaning truck – 2 people

    Countryside house – 3 people – child

    LOW BUDGET:

    MAIN VARIABLES

    Number of Locations: 9

    Expensive locations: Government building (can be any classic style building with rooms), revolution HQ (warehouse o abandoned building).

    Number of characters: 1 Main, 3 support, 30-50 extras, 1 child

    Special effects: gunshots, some blood

    SOLUTION: Off-screen kills.

    Number of pages: 90

    Crowd scenes: 2

    SOLUTION: Maybe reduce the number of extras by half and solve with camera angles.

    Stunts, Chase scenes, and Fight scenes: No

    Special sets: No

    SECONDARY VARIABLES

    Rights to music, brands, books, etc: No

    Explosions and Firearm: No explosions, yes firearm

    Kids — shorter work days, tutor on the set: Yes 2 set days

    Animals: No

    Weather — Rain, snow, wind, tornados: No

    Water and underwater scenes: no

    Night scenes: yes 3-night scenes

    Drone shots: Yes

    Green screen work: Maybe the last car scene

    Extensive Make-up: no

    Archival Footage: No

    QUADRUPLED BUDGET:

    MAIN VARIABLES

    Number of Locations: 15

    Expensive locations: Government building (can be any classic style building with rooms), revolution HQ (build from scratch and located in an underground bunker).

    Number of characters: 1 Main, 3 support, 50-100 extras, 1 child

    Special effects: full-on battle scenes, with gunshots, stunts, explosions, blood, and 20-30 extras, tank, and helicopters.

    Number of pages: 110

    Crowd scenes: 5

    Stunts, Chase scenes, and Fight scenes: Yes, two big fights unravel at the border and a chase scene where they manage to barely escape

    Special sets: No

    SECONDARY VARIABLES

    Rights to music, brands, books, etc: Music licensing from big artists

    Explosions and Firearm: Yes explosions and extensive use of firearms.

    Kids — shorter work days, tutor on the set: Yes 2 set days

    Animals: No

    Weather — Rain, snow, wind, tornados: Yes, forest scenes or escape scenes with constant tropical rain

    Water and underwater scenes: no

    Night scenes: yes 5-night scenes

    Drone shots: Yes

    Green screen work: Maybe the last car scene

    Extensive Make-up: no

    Archival Footage: No

  • Thomas Doran

    Member
    June 28, 2023 at 6:45 pm

    Tom’s Budget

    What I learned doing this assignment is learning what elements will lower the budget costs, thereby increasing the chances of selling or optioning the screenplay. I also learned what elements to add if working with a larger budget to increase the intrigue and dramatic elements.

    1. Run through this list and tell us how many ways you might be able decrease the budget for your project if that was required.

    MAIN VARIABLES


    Number of Locations
    – 3- Int./Ext. SUV ,Road; Snowbank; Int./Ext. small building.
    Expensive locations – None.
    Number of characters – 2 Main characters; 2 extra characters, 1 character with one line of dialogue.
    Special effects – Snow/Wind Conditions. No other special effects .
    Number of pages – 90.
    Crowd scenes
    -None.
    Stunts, Chase scenes, and Fight scenes -None.
    Special sets -Icy/ Snowy Conditions.

    SECONDARY VARIABLES


    Rights to music, brands, books, etc
    . -None
    Explosions and Firearm – None
    Kids — shorter work days, tutor on the set – No Kids. Animals – need a wrangler, more time to shoot, Humane Society – No Animals
    Weather — Rain, snow, wind, tornados: The blizzard is central to the story, therefore must create Blizzard like Snow and Wind conditions.
    Water and underwater scenes – No water scenes.
    Night scenes
    – Do not need to have night scenes, however they could increase the drama and suspense.
    Helicopters, aircraft, drone shots -None <div>

    Green screen work. – Yes, if it contributes to the snowy blizzard.
    Extensive Make-up -None
    Archival Footage – None.

    Anything else dangerous that increases preparation time and/or Insurance: Driving Scenes through hazardous blizzard like conditions.

    2. Go through the list and tell us what you might add if your budget was quadrupled.

    Add a dozen or so SUV’s buried in snow.
    Add multiple night scenes to create more drama and suspense. It will increase the sense of isolation.
    Add dramatic music. </div>

    <b style=”font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit;”>Add make-up– frozen snow, ice covering Alex is face; wound in the side of Alex’s face after trying to save people trapped in hater vehicle. Add make-up to Kris – showing that she’s completely pale from the freezing cold.

    Add drone shots to show how many vehicles are stranded in an endless sea of snow and ice.
    Add more scenes at hospital.
    Use helicopters for rescue and search.
    Add dogs for rescue scenes.
    Archival footage could be used in the beginning to show a history of hazardous blizzards in Buffalo.

    10.More dramatic Rescue of Kris.

    11.Increase pages from 90 to 110.

  • Aurora AURORA Harris HARRIS

    Member
    July 1, 2023 at 9:33 pm

    Aurora Writes for a Budget

    I learned that writers’ imaginations can unreasonably explode a film budget but clever rewriting can quickly reduce expenses.

    1. How many ways might I be able decrease the budget for my project if required?

    Decrease budget by using the same or variations of same costumes. (Note that period costumes was NOT on the list of added expense items but needs to be. ) Reuse some of same background actors, ie use Dominick’s fellow runners or some of the prison guards as some of the nighttime assailants. Instead of using a child, use a young adult as the shepherd boy. Have sound of sheep instead of actual sheep, don’t show Theo on horseback, but just the head of his horse as he is dismounted or eliminate horse all together. Use green screen instead of using a location with a view. Shorten the number of locations by reusing some outdoor area nearby a villa. Shoot more outdoors to limit lighting issues. Use different ends of the same cobblestone street for the two street scenes. Get re- enactors to bring their own Roman uniforms.

    MAIN VARIABLES

    Number
    of Locations -12
    Expensive
    locations- establishing shots of the ancient temples of Rome
    Number
    of characters 21
    Special
    effects- none
    Number
    of pages- 52
    Crowd
    scenes- 3
    Stunts,
    Chase scenes, and Fight scenes- falling while running, kicking a man
    sprawling, soldiers dragging
    Special
    sets-steep flight of stone steps to replicate Gemonian stairs, top and
    bottom.

    SECONDARY VARIABLES

    Rights
    to music, brands, books, etc -none.
    Explosions
    and Firearm- none but crowd scene with soldiers requires swords and Roman
    armament
    Kids
    — shorter work days, tutor on the set- child in field
    Animals
    – need a wrangler, more time to shoot, Humane Society- horse ridden by
    Theo, sheep
    Weather
    — Rain, snow, wind, tornados.- none
    Water
    and underwater scenes-none
    Night
    scenes- yes, the torch light attack during the Seder meal
    Helicopters,
    aircraft, drone shots- none
    Green
    screen work- yes, establishing shots from the top of the Gemonian steps.
    Extensive
    Make-up- dead soldier on the Gemonian steps, blood on doorway at Seder
    Archival
    Footage- establishing shots of Rome
    Anything
    else dangerous that increases preparation time and/or Insurance.- Roman
    clothing, soldiers’ costumes

    2. What I might add if my budget was quadrupled.

    Better actors. Fancier uniforms. CGI views of city of Rome and its Temples. Larger group of soldiers practicing maneuvers. Use an exterior shot of the baths.

  • Robert Barhite

    Member
    July 8, 2023 at 8:29 pm

    Bob’s Budget

    What I learned doing this assignment is… a small budget forces a writer to focus on the characters and conflicts rather than be Michael Bay. The story always comes first.

    MAIN VARIABLES

    • Number of Locations

    o LOW: Bar interior, Bar exterior, Car exterior/driving (B roll), Car outside a run-down shack (B roll), Beach exterior

    o $$$$: INT: Bar, INT: Bar basement, EXT: Bar, INT: Ritzy hotel room, EXT Car driving (B roll), EXT: Car outside a run-down shack (B roll), EXT: Beach, EXT: Causeway, EXT Police

    • Expensive locations

    o None, the more run-down the better

    o $$$$: Ritzy hotel, high-end bar, Beach scene – Hawaii

    • Number of characters

    o Four principals, maybe a couple bar flies, and maybe a couple VO

    o $$$$: show the final mob scene rather than do it as a VO, people on the beach, people at the hotel, three or four sheriffs.

    • Special effects

    o INT: Approaching hurricane thru the bar windows, EXT: Rain outside bar. Fake gun shot/murder

    o EXT: Hurricane (flying debris, trees, etc…)

    • Number of pages

    o 75-85

    o $$$$: 120

    • Crowd scenes

    o None

    o $$$$: People scurrying about, evacuating the island.

    • Stunts, Chase scenes, and Fight scenes

    o Maybe one fight scene between The Lieutenant and the Bartender and The Bagwoman as they try to escape.

    o $$$$: Car Chase – The Lieutenant chases The Bartender and The Bagwoman. The Lieutenant crashes on the causeway and rolls into the ocean.

    • Special sets

    o None

    o $$$$: INT airplane first class cabin, INT terminal, INT: storm prediction center

    SECONDARY VARIABLES

    • Rights to music, brands, books, etc.

    o Beer tappers. No books. Original music – simple arrangements.

    o $$$$: Use music from The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, etc. in the soundtrack.

    • Explosions and Firearm

    o None. The destruction of the bar is a VO. No gunfights.

    o $$$$: Gunfight between the Lieutenant and The Bartender right before the bar is set to explode (ticking clock). The Lieutenant is blown thru the bar door when the bomb detonates.

    • Kids — shorter work days, tutor on the set

    o None

    o $$$$: A school bus of kids being loaded and evacuated. A family with kids trapped in the bar.

    • Animals – need a wrangler, more time to shoot, Humane Society

    o None

    o $$$$: Stray dog running thru the streets as the hurricane hits

    • Weather — Rain, snow, wind, tornados.

    o Rain in Act 4 as The Diamond Man leaves, then when the Lieutenant races away.

    • Water and underwater scenes

    o None

    o $$$$: Car sinking in the ocean as The Lieutenant tries to escape it

    • Night scenes

    o Simple EXT shot of the bar and the hotel with lightning

    o $$$$: Hold the evacuation at night.

    • Helicopters, aircraft, drone shots

    o B roll of The Bartender’s car on a highway (day shot)

    o $$$$: National Guard helicopters arriving at the island

    • Green screen work

    o None

    o $$$$: Use Pixomondo’s Toronto stage in place of actual locations.

    • Extensive Make-up

    o None

    o $$$$: Gunfight aftermath

    • Archival Footage

    o None

    o $$$$: Pond5 – news story about a hurricane, show not as a VO, Hurricane damage, etc…

    • Anything else dangerous that increases preparation time and/or Insurance.

    o None

    o $$$$: Actor trapped in a car underwater. Buildings collapse as The Bartender and The Bagwoman race away. Falling power lines.

  • Bent Hanlen

    Member
    July 9, 2023 at 7:29 am

    Bent’s Budget

    what I learned doing this assignment is …….. I came in with a low budget show and maybe my biggest expense will be name stars. A listers. But I can go without I think.

    Number of Locations One location a soundstage

    Expensive locations none

    Number of characters minimal

    Special effects None

    Number of pages maybe 45

    Crowd scenes none

    Stunts, Chase scenes, and Fight scenes none

    Special sets lobby, hotel rooms, cafeteria, offices

    secondary

    Rights to music, brands, books, etc.

    Explosions and Firearm

    Kids — shorter work days, tutor on the set

    Animals – need a wrangler, more time to shoot, Humane Society

    Weather — Rain, snow, wind, tornados

    .Water and underwater scenes

    Night scenes

    Helicopters, aircraft, drone shots

    Green screen work

    Extensive Make-up

    Archival Footage

    Anything else dangerous that increases preparation time and/or Insurance.

    OF THIS LIST, ID SAY KIDS AND MUSIC RIGHTS. THAT’S ALL.

    If I had a larger budget then I’d choose an elaborate hotel set. Maybe green screen work for dream sequences which would be rare.

  • Martha Manuel

    Member
    July 11, 2023 at 7:10 pm

    LESSON 9:
    Keeping It Low
    Budget

    SUBJECT LINE: Martha’s Budget

    What I learned doing
    this assignment is:
    there is always more to learn.

    ASSIGNMENT

    Run through this list and tell us how many ways you might be able to decrease/increase the budget for your project if that was required.

    Cut By 25 Percent MAIN
    VARIABLES Quadruple
    Budget

    N/A (only one) Number of Locations Add forest scene – convicts escape

    N/A (rural country store) Expensive locations (see above)

    Cut
    from five to two Number
    of characters
    5 original + 2 deputies + 5 firemen

    Hear noise from hurricane Special effects Show scenes with hurricane

    Cut from 120 to 90 pages Number of pages Maintain 120 pages

    N/A Crowd scenes Firetruck, ambulance, etc. at end

    N/A Stunts, Chase scenes, and Fight scenes N/A

    Fire at door to back room Special sets Show back room engulfed in flames

    Cut By 25 Percent SECONDARY VARIABLES Quadruple Budget

    Use stock music Rights to music Use hit music for theme song

    Hear, don’t show explosion Explosions Show explosion that starts fire

    Use obviously defective gun Firearm No need to use more realistic gun

    N/A Kids — shorter work days, tutor on the set N/A

    N/A Animals – need a wrangler, more time to shoot, Humane Society N/A

    Hear sounds of hurricane Weather Show hurricane and its’ effects

    Hear firetruck in distance Water scenes Show firemen putting out fire

    N/A Night scenes Show convicts escaping prison

    N/A Helicopters, aircraft, drone shots N/A

    N/A Green screen work N/A

    N/A Extensive Make-up Lance hit by fire’s flying debris

    N/A Archival Footage N/A

    N/A Anything dangerous that increases preparation time and/or Insurance N/A

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